pokey wrote
The real truth is we will never know what they truly prefer. Too many women change their stance depending on the man they are with. This leads me to believe that the majority of women really don't have a preference. It is the guys that are trying to make them pick one or the other to justify us being non-circumcised or circumcised to make us feel better about ourselves like a bunch of kids trying to explain why their mom or dad is cooler than yours. It's pointless. No matter what studies you present they only represent a fraction. This applies to both sides of the argument.
... except you can if you get a circumcision later in life and compare women's thoughts on both experiences (which I have). I find it funny many of you people assume so many things about me, when the truth of the matter is I can sympathize very well with the intact point of view, so considering this I don't get mad because I know the insecurity that comes with being uncut. I have been with a decent amount of women, and having traveled abroad been with women from other european countries. Trust me when I say (or don't, I must have an agenda here right? ...) that women genuinely respond much more positively to circumcised men. To them its simply looks prettier and oral is more pleasant for them. That is about it (from my point of view, there are many more benefits as the owner of it but that isn't the topic here). If you are uncircumcised I feel like we tend to take this to mean uncut is ugly, and therefore ours is by association. If you are confident yours is nice enough, then don't take it personally. Its a case by case basis. We are talking in generalities here.
veigus wrote
You have no idea what most women would want, these are porn stars that you are referencing. I wouldn't assume that because 60% of porn stars prefer cut that means the rest of the world has the same opinion.
I do have a good idea, sorry to burst your bubble. Truth of the matter is even if a woman has no preference, and she was presented with a side-by-side photo of a circumcised dick and an "intact" dick, and you told her cut is generally cleaner and less prone to problems, but uncut on the otherhand is deemed natural and more sensitive... majority of women are going to choose the circumcised one.
Don't believe me? Here is a good example of French porn legend Rebeca Lord, who has spent half of her adult life in France. She doesn't have much of a preference or even really care, but when it comes down to it she views circumcised as the more attrative option:
Rebecca Lord @rebeccalords
@supportourstars Hey whatever rocks their boat! For me, no difference really. Aesthetically better circumcised.
See? Then couple that with the stigma of uncircumcised being unhygienic (I know this isn't true, I was always clean) and you have the reason why cut will be preferred. This is not a cultural issue or about societal familarity, quit lying to yourselves.
yokohama213: Its sad that this thread has turned so sour. How about everyone stops being sensitive and takes the thread for what it is? People have different opinions, deal with it, now lets stop arguing.
Deadhart, my advice to you would be to compile a list that has specific links for each quote, without that you aren't really saving people any time.
It is unfortunate, I tried not to engage too much with the negativity or share too much personal info about myself but I feel some is necessary to understand each other. This forum serves as a Men's Help and Support group it seems...
I have almost 350 names on that list, and I should have indexed all the links when I found them but at this point its too much work to go back all over again. Fortunately, almost all these sources are from twitter so its easy enough for someone to find them on specific women if you search the key terms with their username.
I'd be interested to see links for any of the British ones...as it's so rare to hear them answer the preference question. Especially Lara Latex.
Again, this isn't a cultural or familiarity issue. I even added a stat to my thread on planetsuzy to show how many foreign women are in each category. Here is a list for all the foreign women who prefer cut (as of Jan. 11, 2016):
Abella Anderson (Cuba)
Akira Lane (Japan)
Anastasia Harris (United Kingdom)
Amy Reid (Germany)
Angelina Castro (Cuba)
Arianna Angel (Netherlands)
Ariella Ferrera (Colombia)
Dani O'Neal (United Kingdom)
Deauxma (Germany)
Eva Karera (Belgium)
Evelyn Lin (China)
Gaia (South Korea)
Gina Valentina (Brazil)
Hannah Claydon (United Kingdom)
Jennifer Dark (Czech Republic)
Juelz Ventura (Brazil)
Kiki Vidis (Australian)
Kimora Klein (China)
Lara Latex (United Kingdom)
Mckenzie Lee (United Kingdom)
Mercedes Ashley (Puerto Rico)
Natasha Starr (Poland)
Nikki Benz (Ukraine)
Nina Elle (Germany)
Paige Turnah (United Kingdom)
Rebeca Linares (Spain)
Rebecca Lord (France)
Roxy Ray (United Kingdom)
Sienna Day (United Kingdom)
Sinful Celeste (Latin America)
Sophie Dee (United Kingdom)
Tamara Loveset (United Kingdom)
Tiffany Kingston (United Kingdom)
Vivian Schmidt (Germany)
Final thoughts, don't get mad at me. Life isn't fair and whatever your opinion about the practice of circumcision is irrelevant to what women like. They don't have to prefer "intact" nor should they be shamed into it. Woman will like the man behind the penis first, so getting caught up in this isn't worthwhile, I used to and still somewhat do. But I realise this is just a fetish/fantasy, in real life women don't tend to judge men so harshly on being cut or uncut as twitter makes it seem.